The Clinton Trump Debates

I’m sure I’m not the only one… thinking of the debates between Clinton and Trump.
There’s no way Der Trumpster can become sober and rational between now and whenever the debates occur–so we can count on him using broad ridicule, name-calling, unflattering imitations, interruptions, finger-pointing, shouting, etc.
And that’s just the style. The content will be–from his side–mostly about her “crimes” (real, exaggerated or imagined). AND he will drag her personal life onto the stage as often as he can–mostly about bad old Bill.
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I’m sure I’m not the only one… thinking of the debates between Clinton and Trump.
There’s no way Der Trumpster can become sober and rational between now and whenever the debates occur–so we can count on him using broad ridicule, name-calling, unflattering imitations, interruptions, finger-pointing, shouting, etc.
And that’s just the style. The content will be–from his side–mostly about her “crimes” (real, exaggerated or imagined). AND he will drag her personal life onto the stage as often as he can–mostly about bad old Bill.

Trumpernickel also has plenty of legitimate stuff to pound her with.
Clinton has run on her experience. So she will have to defend that experience and all the questionable and damaging things she’s done since she was first in the White House up until the last speech she gave to whatever nasty group of corporate vampires for 325,000. (He hasn’t released his tax returns and she hasn’t shown us the transcripts of her speeches to Wall Street, Big Pharma, Health Insurance companies, etc).

Anyway, what interests me is: How does she react to Trump?
If she talks down to him to him as if she was a high school principle and he was (as he is) a fuck-up caught causing trouble in class or the hallways, then she will not come off so well.
If she yells at him and points her finger she will look like… here it comes… a bitch. The old angry or critical “woman problem”. She could yell at him if she was a man and get away with it, but…

Also, she shouldn’t stoop to his level–that just diminishes her gravitas and strength.
She also shouldn’t get too defensive about her unethical and undefendable behavior in various roles she’s played. On the other hand, she might need to address some of her more egregious mistakes and questionable choices–in and out of office. It’s all a question of balance.

So what does she do? Tai Chi… Just maintain an even keel, keep calm, and let him throw himself all over the stage like a child having a tantrum. Point out, in as polite a way as possible, that she wants to discuss the issues, let him rant a bit, then talk about her plans to solve problems and why she’s more qualified than he is to do that.
Be respectful–as much as it’s possible with a guy like Trump–be as tough as she can without pounding him too hard and just let him blow himself up.

Maybe there won’t be any debates. If there aren’t any I’m guessing that it will be because Trump is afraid of her.

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9 Responses to The Clinton Trump Debates

  1. Bennett Horowitz says:

    Well Mike, this was the Jeb Bush problem: He tried to maintain his dignity and decorum, but Chump would not participate that way. Jeb-boy could not rise above. It’s that old trap of saying “Hey buddy, do you still beat your wife?” Once those words hit the air, there is no good answer which will make them go away, and no matter what, the accused has his reputation besmirched. That’s the way Chump operates. He had Rubio stymied, trying to figure out how to counter being called “Little Marco” without appearing ridiculous himself. For one embarrassing second, Rubio started to call Chump “Big Donald,” but realized as the words tumbled from his mouth that this was not going to sound good. Chump won the reality TV show. He was still a huge asshole, but apparently the American public loved it.

  2. rachna singh says:

    I could be accused of not having a sense of humour BUT there is nothing to laugh about in any American election, especially for those of us who are under constant threat of attack by drones, F-21s, B-52s, etc.

    H. Clinton wants to play goody two shoes to the bombastic owner of Trump Towers. She has a dirty (to say the least) record, and a very efficient PR campaign that milks first the Khans and then Chris Stevens’ sister. Aren’t Americans wondering why she’s pulling these people out of her hat ?
    Trump puts his foot into it but is infinitely preferable to insidious Clinton as he is willing to talk to Russia, he is an outsider, part of the corporate world but undisguisedly so.
    He wants to ban Muslim immigrants but he hasn’t stated that he is going to continue slaughtering them in their own countries. Like it or not, Clinton has a proven record of murder. God save us all from her and the ‘so-called’ liberal, bleeding heart Americans who think, mistakenly, that Democrats are different from Republicans.

    • Mike Feder says:

      No argument from me about Clinton.She is warlike and dangerous and has far too many friends among the rich and undeservedly powerful–not just in the USA but worldwide.
      I’m ashamed of my country’s behavior internationally and, you’re right, Clinton will just continue to do more of the same.
      As far as Trump is concerned… he has no interest in any democratic process and is purely narcissitic, not to be trusted with any level of power beyond building hotels and golf courses–and he is far too admiring of Putin (who is just about as bad as any human being can be in this world).
      Anyway, Trump never had any intention of winning the election. He just wants as much attention as possible before he drops out of the race.

      • rachna singh says:

        Having rich and powerful friends is not a problem nor is it an issue.The problem is H. Clinton’s ‘shadiness’.
        I do not understand why so many Americans still support her, because she is a woman (at least biologically so) or they cannot see through her PR campaign or is it an anti-Trump vote or something else. (Even the venerable Noam Chomsky seems to favour her !!!!!)
        Secondly, if Trump is, as you say, simply flaunting himself, why are so many other Americans taking him seriously ? Surely, an accomplished businessman will not sink his money on feeding his narcissism.
        A question for you — is your remark re: Mr. Putin made to ‘balance’ the equation that ‘fair minded’ people are so fond of doing or do you truly believe that Mr. Putin is in the same league as Barack Obama, George Bush Jnr., Benjamin Netanyahu, Osama bin Laden, ISIS/ISIL, Hitler, Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher, the Saudi Royal Family, the Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, Hafez al Asad, Narendra Modi, etc.
        I hope you will reply.
        By the way, was an avid supporter of WBAI in the ’80s & ’90s, and a keen listener of your programme — a former resident of NYC.

        • Mike Feder says:

          Thanks for listening back in the ’80’s and 90’s.
          I’m not sure what you mean by me equating Putin with all the other people you mention. I don’t believe I ever implied anything like that.
          As far as Clinton goes, people support her (those that do) because she is the only realistic alternative to Trump. Also, millions of people support Trump because they are either ignorant, or bigoted or just plain stupid and are entranced by his celebrity– This is certainly no different in many other countries so it shouldn’t seem like something that is surprising.
          Best if you want to continue the dialogue or communicate anything else to me to get in touch directly at mikefeder@nyc.rr.com
          I would be interested to know more about you…

          Mike

          • Mike says:

            Well, many people support Mr. Trump as conversely the only realistic alternative to the Clintons, using (legitimately the same reasoning). It hoped that something of this country charter of decency and mid-class values can be salvaged / resuscitated from 16 years of statecraft devolution and domestic mismanagement w/more domestic centric & perspectived governance. Trump if imperfect is less unsavory -and invidious to say the least than HRC- & may be able to regarner our image abroad & resettle the country domestically to look forward. We must at least hope to do more than another Obama term of unsustainable policies and horrid social divisions his admin has abetted. Thanks.

  3. rachna singh says:

    I just sent mail to the address you provided but can’t resist from writing on this platform.

    I am bewildered as to how one can label millions of Americans as ‘ignorant, or bigoted or just plain stupid …’.

    Clinton + spouse are celebrities too, commanding huge sums of money for their ‘speeches’. Certainly they don’t own a gaudy casino in Atlantic City, just a Clinton Foundation that is probably deemed tax-free for its so-called charitable work in poor countries.

    • Mike Feder says:

      I’m bewildered that you’re bewildered to learn that millions of Americans are ignorant, bigoted or just plain stupid. Is there a country where this isn’t true?

  4. rachna singh says:

    It’s so easy to label people one doesn’t agree with, with all the adjectives you have used.

    Let’s assume for a minute that what you say about millions of Americans is accurate; isn’t that a failure on part of the much lauded free press of the USA or its educational system, its community groups, etc. ?

    You wanted the name of a country. Israel, led, consistently, by some of the most murderous individuals, comes to mind immediately BUT Israelis are not ignorant, bigoted or stupid. I say this based on personal interactions with 100s of Israelis, and Israeli & Western media.

    Present day India, too, comes to mind but the people who rule the roost here, whom I would never ever vote for, do have a point, and are willing to engage in a debate. I may disagree totally but name-calling is not conducive to a healthy polity.

    Do read the post above written by a Mike. I am quite sure it is not you or maybe it is the ‘OTHER’ you.

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